Las Vegas Shooting Near Mandalay Bay Casino..

[Mad Scientist]

Maybe jumping the gun in relation to a terror attack, but am I, is terror only busied by extremists from religions? Nah... In any case what ever the outcome, terror it is.

Las Vegas Shooting Near Mandalay Bay Casinoends People Fleeing



A gunman opened fire Sunday night at a concert outside a Las Vegas casino hotel, sending people fleeing as SWAT units searched for the attacker and the police investigated reports of shootings elsewhere in the city.

Reports said that the shooting happened near the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino. It was not immediately known how many people were injured. Video posted online showed a musician performing outside the hotel at Route 91 Harvest, a country music festival, when the sound of automatic gunfire rang out. The music stopped, and concertgoers ducked for cover. “Get down,” one shouted. “Stay down,” screamed another.

Several SWAT teams were sent to the hotel, and officers reported being pinned down by gunfire, according to emergency radio traffic. Shortly before midnight the Las Vegas Police Metropolitan Police Department reported that “one suspect is down,” but they gave no details.

The police also descended on the Ali Baba Restaurant, about a 10-minute drive from the Mandalay Bay, and they were also investigating reports of a shooting at the New York-New York Hotel and Casino.



The police reported clearing out the Mandalay Bay’s 29th floor and working their way up to the 32nd floor. A police Twitter post described reports of an “active shooter” near or around the Mandalay Bay casino.

One officer reported that civilians were “trying to take patrol cars,” but it was unclear why.
The police reported closing off about a mile of Las Vegas Boulevard and asked the public to steer clear of the area.

Police radio reports suggested that at least three people were transported to Sunrise Hospital and Medical Center for treatment. The police were told not to bring additional casualties — unless the injuries were life-threatening — to University Medical Center, another nearby hospital, because it was at capacity.



A photo posted by a Las Vegas Review-Journal photographer showed emergency responders carrying off one injured person in a wheelbarrow.



McCarran Airport in Las Vegas said that some flights destined for the airport were diverted because of police activity. The airport is just east of the Mandalay hotel, and after the shooting there were reports of people fleeing the concert by running onto an airport runway.

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[grishnakh]

 think the defining element of 'terrorism' is that it serves a political purpose? 

anyway, this guy was a white american so its defined as lone wolf right? I mean right 

[Mad Scientist]

Oct 2, 2017 10:28:46 GMT grishnakh said:

 think the defining element of 'terrorism' is that it serves a political purpose? 

anyway, this guy was a white american so its defined as lone wolf right? I mean right 

I took the literal meaning of Terror and thought about it coming to the conclusion that terror is the victims right to claim, not the attackers right, therefore it's hard to define the thin line between terror and mass murder, the one doesn't automatically mean the other.

Lone Wolf would be correct if it was also planned alone and the person did not receive coaching, I am not sure if we'll find out about that.

[grishnakh]

I guess being killed would be fairly terrifying unless you just didn't know it was coming at all, then perhaps not.. hmm I dunno, at the end of the day does it matter? I mean why? Not to the victim does it, they are gone burgers. 

murders murder but then it can get fucked up eh, did you hear about those russian cannibals? 

these guys are all influenced somehow.. its a messed up world huh

[Mad Scientist]

Oct 2, 2017 20:17:52 GMT grishnakh said:

I guess being killed would be fairly terrifying unless you just didn't know it was coming at all, then perhaps not.. hmm I dunno, at the end of the day does it matter? I mean why? Not to the victim does it, they are gone burgers. 

murders murder but then it can get fucked up eh, did you hear about those russian cannibals? 

these guys are all influenced somehow.. its a messed up world huh

Ok, yes, I meant the victims still alive, I should have explained that a little more,

Yeah, that Russian thing, that freaked me out like feck, I mean, wtf, how on Earth were they not caught earlier, I mean really.
Last year or so I had this dream that I was in this house where Elvis impersonators were stiffed up next to a table, strange wooden room, like an attic space. Makes one wonder if someone like that is out there, I wouldn't be surprised if there was, I mean nothing surprises me anymore tbh. Freaky dream that was btw.

Yeah, it's really, really getting bad out there, at the same time there doesn't seem to be any solution present. I still believe it's all planned this way to make People desperate enough they'll accept some creature claiming to be the Creator of the Universe, calling himself God. I truly hope that chapter will not come to pass and we'll go straight for the end of the endgame, sigh...

[Shaggietrip]

I am no arms expert. Yet in all the videos I looked for the muzzle flash. I just can not pick it up. Even now  "knowing the location of the shooter". This video would seem to be the best. black glass/dark at the time. I may be wrong. The shooter may have the muzzles back from window a bit. Yet with no training one would think he would naturally use the sill as a brace/stand. His brother if showing odd behavior also.

Location and dark background when shooting was in progress. More videos out there showing the windows presented as point of fire.



Dudes Brother.

[Mad Scientist]

Oct 2, 2017 22:44:01 GMT Shaggietrip said:

I am no arms expert. Yet in all the videos I looked for the muzzle flash. I just can not pick it up. Even now  "knowing the location of the shooter". This video would seem to be the best. black glass/dark at the time. I may be wrong. The shooter may have the muzzles back from window a bit. Yet with no training one would think he would naturally use the sill as a brace/stand. His brother if showing odd behavior also.

Location and dark background when shooting was in progress. More videos out there showing the windows presented as point of fire.



Dudes Brother.

[grishnakh]

Sounds like he was pretty well set up huh

what I don't get is, did he blow the window out of his room? The only footage I saw looked like the window was missing

[Mad Scientist]

Oct 5, 2017 7:13:50 GMT grishnakh said:

Sounds like he was pretty well set up huh

what I don't get is, did he blow the window out of his room? The only footage I saw looked like the window was missing

Dunno, found those casings weird, gotta say that it looks a lot like there was more than one shooter. Don't normally agree with the conspiracies on these things, but this one seems strange indeed.

“People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.”

― Adam Smith, The Wealth of Nations ―

[grishnakh]

I see he took the windows out himself because they don't open. 

I found a few clips online that do seem to indicate more than one shooter. The audio in these clips seems to suggest there are overlapping automatic fire from two different points. There has been suggestions its an echo but I feel they don't match well enough for that to be the case. 

Police chatter at the time also signal another shooter from a position referred to only as "gate 7" 

Back to the windows, he shot from two seperate points on the building. This is key. 

The guy rented out two adjoining rooms, one looked like a large suite that was right on the end of the building but the other adjoining room was just a studio unit. I feel uneasy about this for several reasons, which I will get back to later but for now I just wanted to point out the gunfire was coming from a window in this small unit and also a window in the larger suite.

If you get a copy of the floor plan and check out these two positions and the distance between them, you start to get a picture of what I am saying.

Then theres also the girl who claims a woman was carted off 45 minutes prior to the attack by security who was yelling "you are all going to die"