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Post by Mad Scientist on Jul 4, 2017 4:46:56 GMT
Interesting because the US Administration vowed a couple of days ago that their patience was over when it came to Northern Korea and Missile testing. I wonder, I truly do... "News" Article 01 July 2017: www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/01/donald-trump-declares-patience-is-over-with-north-korea North Korea test-fires ballistic missile ahead of G20 summit.North Korea test-launched a ballistic missile from its western region into the sea off its east coast on Tuesday, South Korea's military said, ahead of a summit of leaders from the Group of 20 nations in Germany later this week. The missile flew for about 40 minutes and landed in Japan's Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ), the Japanese government said, adding it had strongly protested what it called a clear violation of UN resolutions. The missile flew about 930 kilometers (580 miles), the South's Office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said, adding the altitude reached by the projectile was still being analyzed.  People watch a TV broadcast of a news report on North Korea's ballistic missile test, at a railway station in Seoul, South Korea, July 4, 2017. REUTERS/Kim Hong-Ji.North Korea is ignoring repeated warnings from the international community, Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said on Tuesday. Abe said he will ask the presidents of China and Russia to play more constructive roles in efforts to stop the North's arms program. "Leaders of the world will gather at the G20 meeting. I would like to strongly call for solidarity of the international community on the North Korean issue," Abe told reporters. It was the fourth ballistic missile launched by the North since South Korean President Moon Jae-in took office in May, vowing to use dialogue as well as pressure to bring Pyongyang's nuclear and missile programs under control. Following the news of the latest launch, U.S. President Donald Trump wrote on Twitter: "North Korea has just launched another missile. Does this guy have anything better to do with his life?" in a reference to the North's leader Kim Jong Un. "Hard to believe South Korea and Japan will put up with this much longer. Perhaps China will put a heavy move on North Korea and end this nonsense once and for all!" The White House offered no immediate comment on the missile launch on Tuesday. TIMING OF LAUNCH.In his meeting with Moon last week in Washington, Trump called for a determined response to North Korea, stressing the importance of the alliance between the two countries. The North has in the past launched ballistic missiles timed to key diplomatic events and meetings of leaders. Tuesday's missile was launched around 0040 GMT (8.40 p.m. ET) from an airfield in Panghyon, about 100 km (60 miles) northwest of the North's capital, Pyongyang, the South Korean military said. It did not immediately release the range and class of the missile, citing ongoing analysis. The last North Korean missile launches were in early June and the one on Tuesday came ahead of the G20 summit on July 7-8 in Hamburg, Germany, where the United States, China, Japan and South Korea are expected to discuss efforts to rein in the North's nuclear and missile tests.  A man watches a TV broadcast of a news report on North Korea's ballistic missile test, at a railway station in Seoul, South Korea, July 4, 2017. REUTERS/Kim Hong-JiPyongyang has been working to develop a nuclear-tipped missile capable of hitting the United States and has conducted missile-related activities at an unprecedented pace since the start of last year. Earlier this week, North Korea was a key topic in phone calls between U.S. President Donald Trump and the leaders of China and Japan. Leaders of both Asian countries reaffirmed their commitment to a denuclearized Korean Peninsula. Tuesday's missile launch also comes ahead of July 4 Independence Day celebrations in the United States. North Korea has previously fired missiles around this U.S. holiday. 'LAST OPPORTUNITY'.South Korea's presidential Blue House said President Moon Jae-in called a national security council meeting for 0230 GMT after being informed of the North's missile launch. Moon said on Monday in a meeting with former U.S. president Barack Obama that North Korea now faces its "last opportunity" to engage in talks with the outside world In his meeting in Washington on Friday with Moon, Trump called on regional powers to implement sanctions and demanded the North "choose a better path and do it quickly." The U.N. Security Council adopted its latest sanctions resolution in early June after North Korea conducted three ballistic missile test launches in May. Pyongyang routinely rejects such moves, saying they infringe on its sovereign right to self defense and space exploration. Source Link. |
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Post by brillbilly on Jul 4, 2017 15:22:19 GMT
I take any news on NK with caution if it's from MSM or the Military Industrial Complex
When we know NK,IRAN,SYRIA etc have been on the hit list for years, it dont suprize me that any dirt on NK to drag it in to being the next target of choice or soon to be is going on.!
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Post by Mad Scientist on Jul 4, 2017 17:09:07 GMT
If their building up to some attack, that's the only source I'd look at, simply because it's the Propaganda machine of choice. The point isn't if they lie or not, the point is the built up. It's building up, but are they going full monty? Perhaps the next article will tip some of that up.  |
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Post by brillbilly on Jul 4, 2017 17:41:37 GMT
If their building up to some attack, that's the only source I'd look at, simply because it's the Propaganda machine of choice. The point isn't if they lie or not, the point is the built up. It's building up, but are they going full monty? Perhaps the next article will tip some of that up. When i watched the falklands event unfold, then Bosnia,then on to Afgan,Iraq,Libya,Ukrain,Syria etc i could always see the same MO..always Propaganda first,then the steps to try to take control of targeted country by first trying to make the leader look like a monster,corrupt the Government to turn on their leader,try to assassinate them,next step if that dont work,try to turn the people against them,this will then lead to an overthrow and the new puppet is put in place.They then hope to control that country and it's resources..NK is different as they are very closed off from the western world..ALL we know about NK is from TV or MSM. In 2011 i started this thread...Keep an eye on this MAP Quote ; This MAP is easy to follow and you can choose what country ya think needs killing in.......sorry.....filling in! Read more: Link/thread/13656/keep-eye-on-map#ixzz4lswn516q  in 2012 i was highlighting US naval locations  'The biggest problem for the United States is not Iran getting a nuclear weapon and testing it, it's Iran getting a nuclear weapon and not using it. Because the second that they have one and they don't do anything bad, all of the naysayers are going to come back and say, "See, we told you Iran is a responsible power. We told you Iran wasn't getting nuclear weapons in order to use them immediately." ... And they will eventually define Iran with nuclear weapons as not a problem.' Hold on. The "biggest problem" with Iran getting a nuclear weapon is not that Iranians will use it but that they won't use it and that they might behave like a "responsible power"? But what about the hysteria about a second Holocaust? What about Prime Minister Netanyahu's assertion that this is 1938 and Hitler is on the march? What about all of these pronouncements that Iran must be prevented from developing a nuclear weapons because the apocalyptic mullahs would happily commit national suicide in order to destroy Israel? Read more: Link/thread/13656/keep-eye-on-map#ixzz4lsyUbxwl Now apply that to NORTH KOREA. and you can see why i air caution...Not saying i'm right n your wrong..just that i air caution to any news regarding targeted countries!  |
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Post by Mad Scientist on Jul 4, 2017 17:53:35 GMT
It's funny, I am not really into remote viewing, I can't see it. But, there seems to be this Guy, he had a few hits, one of his predictions is that Northern Korea will fire a missile and it will be mistaken for an attack and they get nuked (or something similar). But it has to do with a missile test and a misunderstanding because of it. For me this is like research into remote viewing and about someone somewhere who might get nervous at the wrong moment in time. Am gonna follow this like a Hawk. Was looking for a link to that thing, I believe it was called Killshot or something, he was on about the sun blasting us away and all that. But I have since not really cared about that, just that Korea thing is fascinating me, unfort all the stuff I had linked to it has gone. In the Middle East, Turkey is of importance, it's still not clear what direction the Turks are going. Since Iran and Russia are Allies, Turkey has become a strategic spot.  |
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Post by brillbilly on Jul 4, 2017 21:00:36 GMT
It's funny, I am not really into remote viewing, I can't see it. But, there seems to be this Guy, he had a few hits, one of his predictions is that Northern Korea will fire a missile and it will be mistaken for an attack and they get nuked (or something similar). But it has to do with a missile test and a misunderstanding because of it. For me this is like research into remote viewing and about someone somewhere who might get nervous at the wrong moment in time. Am gonna follow this like a Hawk. Was looking for a link to that thing, I believe it was called Killshot or something, he was on about the sun blasting us away and all that. But I have since not really cared about that, just that Korea thing is fascinating me, unfort all the stuff I had linked to it has gone. In the Middle East, Turkey is of importance, it's still not clear what direction the Turks are going. Since Iran and Russia are Allies, Turkey has become a strategic spot. Well funny you mentioned Turkey,as my next info on OCB was about that very strategic land bridge...Quote from 2011 as to how turkey was to be pulled in. Quote : Now why does a ring of fire spring to mind,? anyway lets get going and see if we can fill in the areas that need to hit the headlines! So headlines Turkey is ready to invade Syria Turkey and its western allies are transferring the Libyan fighters whom they trained and armed to depose Muammar Gaddafi to Syria. blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2011/11/29/turkey-is-ready-to-invade-syria/ and watch the areas of latest conflics and we can fill in the arrows! Read more: Link/thread/13656/keep-eye-on-map#ixzz4ltkVzr3k The Seven Step Mainstream Media Country Destruction Guide 1. First, they start by targeting a country ripe for “Regime Change”, and brand it a “rogue state”; then… 2. They arm, train, finance local terrorist groups through CIA, MI6, Mossad, Al-Qaeda (a CIA operation), drug cartels (often CIA operations) and call them “freedom fighters”; then… 3. As mock UN Security Council Resolutions are staged that rain death and destruction upon millions of civilians, they call it “UN sanctions to protect civilians”; then… 4. They spread flagrant lies through their “newsrooms” and paid journalists, and call it "the international community’s concerns expressed by prestigious spokespeople and analysts…” then… 5. They bomb, invade and begin to control the target country and call it “liberation”; then… 6. As the target country falls fully under their control, they impose “the kind of democracy that we want to see, until finally… 7. They steal appetizing oil, mineral and agricultural reserves handing them over to Global Power Elite corporations, and impose unnecessary private banking debt and call it “foreign investment and reconstruction.” So The Western mainstream media falsifies the news resorting to euphemisms, half-truths and lies in the best (worst) style of George Orwell’s novel 1984. We all live in the unreal world of “Newspeak” used by the Global Power Elite to control our minds. Read more: Link/thread/13656/keep-eye-on-map#ixzz4ltlu1PSL but me being a critical believer i can always take it to this level We sometimes have to be both judge and jury Again it's hard to know what's really the truth |
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Post by Mad Scientist on Jul 5, 2017 16:01:59 GMT
Although the condemn the latest missile test, China and Russia are without any doubt opposed to a war in the Korea's. This has put them (Russia) opposite the United States on at least three fronts now, Ukraine, Middle East (Syria) and now Northern Korea. Russia, China: N Korea missile test 'unacceptable'.Russia and China have called for a simultaneous freeze on North Korean nuclear and missile tests and military exercises by the United States and South Korea. The positions were announced in a joint document issued after a meeting between leaders Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping in the Russian capital of Moscow on Tuesday, in which they also condemned Pyongyang's latest missile test as "unacceptable" and urged against "any statements or actions that could lead to an increase in tensions". "The two sides propose that the DPRK (North Korea) as a voluntary political decision declares a moratorium on testing nuclear explosive devices and ballistic rocket launches, and the US and South Korea refrain from carrying out large-scale joint exercises," the two countries' foreign ministries said in a joint statement. "Parallel to this, the opposing sides should start negotiations and affirm general principles of their relations including the non-use of force, rejection of aggression and peaceful co-existence," the statement added. In comments carried by the state news agency TASS, Putin was also quoted as saying: "Our mutual priorities include a comprehensive resolution of the problems of the Korean Peninsula in order to ensure lasting peace and stability in northeastern Asia."  During his Moscow visit, Xi said Russian-Chinese relations 'are now the best ever' [Reuters].Russia and China have the closest diplomatic relations with the insular nation of North Korea. The joint statement followed an announcement by North Korea that it had test-fired its first intercontinental ballistic missile. The United Nations Security Council will hold an emergency meeting on Wednesday. UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres strongly condemned the launch, warning that it "constitutes a dangerous escalation of the situation." The test also sparked a Twitter outburst from US President Donald Trump, who urged China, North Korea's closest ally, to act to "end this nonsense once and for all".  Putin hailed Xi as a 'big friend' and presented him with Russia's highest award for his efforts to strengthen ties [Reuters]
Beijing has previously called for a "dual-track" approach of "suspension for suspension" that would see North Korea and the US ease up on tensions, and now Moscow has added its weight to the plan. Confronting parties.The two countries urged "the confronting parties" involved to sit down for talks, to agree on principles that include a refusal to use force and a pledge to make the Korean Peninsula free of nuclear weapons. At the same time, their document emphasised that the North's "sensible concerns" must be respected and urged other nations to create a "peaceful atmosphere of mutual trust" to help to launch the talks. In an apparent hint at the US, Beijing and Moscow spoke against the "non-regional powers' military presence in Northeast Asia and its buildup under the pretext of countering North Korea's nuclear and missile programmes". They specifically opposed US missile defence systems in the region, saying their deployment "seriously damages strategic security interests of regional powers, including Russia and China" and hinders peace and stability. Xi's visit to Russia also comes amid a flare-up of tensions between China and the US over an American destroyer sailing within the territorial waters of a Chinese-claimed island in the South China Sea. During their meeting, Putin hailed Xi as a "big friend" and presented him with Russia's highest award for his efforts to strengthen ties. Xi said "the Russian-Chinese relations are now the best ever". Putin and Xi are scheduled to attend the Group of 20 summit in Germany later this week. Putin and Trump are to hold their first meeting there. Source. |
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Post by Mad Scientist on Jul 6, 2017 0:16:01 GMT
U.S. threatens military force against North Korea.U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley said on Wednesday that North Korea's actions were "quickly closing off the possibility of a diplomatic solution" and the United States was prepared to defend itself and its allies.  United States UN Ambassador Nikki Haley speaks during a UN Security Council meeting on North Korea's latest launch of an intercontinental ballistic missile. (Bebeto Matthews/Associated Press)."One of our capabilities lies with our considerable military forces. We will use them if we must, but we prefer not to have to go in that direction," Haley told a UN Security Council meeting on Pyongyang's recent intercontinental ballistic missile launch. She said the United States would propose new UN sanctions on North Korea "in the coming days." She also warned that Washington was prepared to cut off trade with countries trading with North Korea in violation of UN resolutions. Russia calls for dialogue.Russia's deputy UN envoy said military force should not be considered against North Korea and also called for a halt to the deployment of a U.S. missile defence system in South Korea. "The possibility of taking military measures to resolve the problems of the Korean Peninsula should be excluded," said deputy Russian UN ambassador Vladimir Safronkov. "We express our support to the idea of North and South Korea engaging in dialogue and consultations." He also said that attempts to economically strangle North Korea are "unacceptable" and that sanctions will not resolve the issue.  Russian deputy UN ambassador Vladimir Safronkov spoke against proposed sanctions on North Korea at the Security Council meeting. (Bebeto Matthews/Associated Press).China's UN Ambassador Liu Jieyi, who also holds the Security Council presidency this month, said North Korea's missile launch was a "flagrant violation" of UN resolutions and "unacceptable." "We call on all the parties concerned to exercise restraint, avoid provocative actions and belligerent rhetoric, demonstrate the will for unconditional dialogue and work actively together to defuse the tension," Liu told the Security Council. He also called for a halt to the U.S. deployment of a missile defence system in South Korea. China is North Korea's only major ally and its biggest trading partner.  The intercontinental ballistic missile North Korea said it successfully test-launched on Tuesday flew a trajectory that experts said could allow a weapon to hit Alaska. (KCNA/Reuters).U.S. and Russia at odds.Near the end of the hour-long session, the seventh time this year the Security Council has discussed North Korea, the U.S. and Russian ambassadors spoke again. Taking issue with what her Russian counterpart had said, Haley said the U.S. "will go our own path" to deal with North Korea if other countries do not approve new UN sanctions. Safronkov responded that sanctions could not be a cure-all and that a political solution was also necessary. Source Link.War threat latest as USA launches missile at Kim Jong Un.DONALD Trump ordered a ballistic missile drill in response to North Korea’s latest weapons test, as Kim Jong-un continues to taunt the US. Here is the latest news and live updates on North Korea. Source Link.
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Post by brillbilly on Jul 6, 2017 12:12:43 GMT
I just hope they get on with it.lets all fire our nukes and go up in one bit firework display lol I get tired of thinking i should be bitting my nails year in year out.!  |
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Post by DarkHeart on Jul 6, 2017 12:46:37 GMT
NK is a unique case, what is often missed is that the pop are akin to cult members, this is why China doesn't want to have to deal with the huge humanitarian disaster that will follow the toppling of the NK regime.
You have a population who can't operate outside of their "culture", so much so that defectors often want to go back because they find the outside world too hard to adapt to.
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