[ti]thinking[/ti]Northern Korea Test-Fires Ballistic Missile (Again)...

[brillbilly]

If you get time you should read some of this i put up in 2014

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The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion.

Read more: Link/thread/17821/all-wars-planned-banker-world#ixzz4m3dNWIAX


World War 3 Timeline

These are, I believe, the stages of the planned Third World War:
Prelude – The events leading up to the start of World War Three, including Sept 11, 2001.
Act 1 – The Middle East. Widespread conflict to bring the entire region into the flames of war, possibly triggered by Iran or militants in Pakistan using North Korean supplied nuclear arms. The first Scene in this Act is the US Invasion of Iraq on March 20, 2003.
Act 2 – Israel at War — Against her Arab neighbors, possibly Palestine. A Palestinian State will be established, so that all Israelis will be fully separated from Palestinians (listen out for mention of a 7-year treaty to be confirmed by a World Leader – probably a Bush), only for Israel to viciously attack Palestine shortly thereafter.
Act 3 – Far East — “Hair-raising nuclear confrontation that threatens mankind’s existence” – Peter Lemesurier, author of The Armageddon Script, p. 223, written in 1981. Includes China invading Taiwan and a nuclear eruption on the Korean Peninsula.
Act 4 – Erosion of Confidence in ‘The System’ so severe citizens will be panicked into giving up liberties and Constitutional form of government. The plan calls for the dissolution of the US Constitution, triggered by a significant enough ‘terrorist’ attack. The ultimate intent is to introduce a global government and one-world religion.
Act 5 – The collapse of the US, and other Western economies and morals.
Act 6 – Significant population reduction using natural and man-made disasters.
Curtain. Who can tell how this war will end?

Both Biblical prophecy and the Illuminati plan state that Israel is the key. The Third World War is planned to begin when Israel goes to war against her Arab enemies. Then, and only then, will all the other elements begin to occur and they will do so in rapid succession. The plan is to have one disaster following another in such rapid succession that, before people can mentally and emotionally handle one disastrous news event, they will be hit with another. It is also accurate to say that until ALL of the elements for WW3 are in place, the plan will not commence.

While it would be naive to suggest a specific timeline for the events leading up to and including World War 3, we do know that the plans for World War 3 are well advanced, and our leaders involved in this secret plan are waiting only for the right signal before all-out war begins.

We are in the last stages of the preparation to so globalize the world that the Masonic New Age Christ (Antichrist) can appear to receive all the political and economic power of the world’s rulers. This is the Illuminati plan and Biblical prophecy (Revelation 17:12-17).

In the words of Peter Lemesurier, author of The Armageddon Script:


“Their script is now written, subject only to last-minute editing and stage-directions. The stage itself, albeit in darkness, is almost ready. Down in the pit, the subterranean orchestra is already tuning up. The last-minute, walk-on parts are even now being filled. Most of the main actors, one suspects, have already taken up their roles. Soon it will be time for them to come on stage, ready for the curtain to rise. The time for action will have come.”

Read more: Link/thread/17821/all-wars-planned-banker-world#ixzz4m3bO91J0

[Mad Scientist]

^^

There's a huge catch to that one, you're gonna want to know about.

The days of the prophecies, Israel was a lot bigger, including having parts of Syria.

Greater Israel occasionally refers to the Promised Land (defined in Genesis 15:18-21) or to the Land of Israel, also called Complete Land of Israel or Entire Land of Israel (Hebrew: ארץ ישראל השלמה‎‎, Eretz Yisrael Hashlemah). This is a more accurate translation than "Greater Israel", which is used in English but has no real counterpart in Hebrew.

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Think about that one...

[brillbilly]

Jul 6, 2017 15:08:16 GMT Mad Scientist said:

^^

There's a huge catch to that one, you're gonna want to know about.

The days of the prophecies, Israel was a lot bigger, including having parts of Syria.

Greater Israel occasionally refers to the Promised Land (defined in Genesis 15:18-21) or to the Land of Israel, also called Complete Land of Israel or Entire Land of Israel (Hebrew: ארץ ישראל השלמה‎‎, Eretz Yisrael Hashlemah). This is a more accurate translation than "Greater Israel", which is used in English but has no real counterpart in Hebrew.

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Think about that one...

For sure it was bigger...But there's always been plans to Expand the Zionist Agenda.
The Rothschilds are merging their Bloodlines Through the black nobility!

Lets follow a few more Goldsmiths!

Jemima Marcelle Goldsmith now Khan
On 16 May 1995, Khan married Jemima Goldsmith, in a traditional Pakistani wedding ceremony in Paris. A month later, on 21 June, they were married again in a civil ceremony at the Richmond registry office in England, followed by a reception at the Goldsmiths' house in Surrey which was attended by London's elite.

This put the bloodine in to power in india.

Zac Goldsmith (1975–), politician, married to Alice Miranda Rothschild (1983–), daughter of Amschel Rothschild (1955–1996)
Ben Goldsmith (1980–), financier, married to Kate Emma Rothschild (1982–), daughter of Amschel Rothschild (1955–1996)
Maximilian Goldschmidt (1843–1940), married to Minna Karoline Freiin von Rothschild, the daughter of Wilhelm Carl von Rothschild (1828–1901) Barons de Goldschmidt-Rothschild.

The Goldschmidt/Goldsmith family is a prominent Banking family and financial dynasty of German Jewish descent,...just like Rothschilds!

So Rothschilds and goldsmith are now in bed with the Royals,who in turn link in to the House of David..Our Royals have some Great friends!



Sabbatai Sevi, the Jewish Messiah of 1666, Sabbatai, descendant of King David, had over one million Jewish followers. According to Sabbateanism-researcher Clifford Shack, the Rothschilds are descendants of Sabbatai.Sabbatean/Frankists, was also referred to as the Cult of the All-Seeing Eye.
Jacob Frank (1726-1791), the leader of the Sabbatean/Frankists, proclaimed himself to be the reincarnation of Sabbatai Zevi and the living Messiah for all Jews.

THE UNHOLY TRINITY

It was the Kabbalistic leadership that handpicked Jacob Frank to develop the teaching begun by Sabbatai and to indoctrinate Mayer Amschel Rothschild and Adam Weishaupt. This alliance of Frank-Rothschild-Weishaupt formed an unholy trinity.


1. THEOLOGY: Jacob Frank was in charge of creating a theology that would be the foundation for revolutions.
2. BANKING: Mayer Amschel was in charge of world banking.
3. REVOLUTION: Adam Weishaupt was in charge of the revolutionary political development in the world.

JACOB'S LADDER


Jacob Frank taught "holiness through sin" and that "good" would come through the triumph of Evil. What was prohibited would be allowed including adultery, incest and pedophilia.

To ascend one must first descend. No man can climb a mountain until he has first descended to its foot. Therefore we must descend and be cast down to the bottom rung, for only then can we climb to the infinite. No region of the human soul can remain untouched by this struggle.


"I did not come into this world to lift you up but rather to cast you down to the bottom of the abyss…The descent into the abyss requires not only the rejection of all religions and conventions, but also the commission of ‘strange acts,’ and this in turn demands the voluntary abasement (degradation) of one’s own sense of self, so that libertinism (no morality) and the achievement of that state of utter shamelessness which leads to a tikkun of the soul are one and the same thing.”

REVERSING TRUTH

Jacob Frank reversed the truth. "Since we cannot all be saints, let us all be sinners." Inspired by Satan, he wrote the doctrine of the Antichrist which permitted orgiastic, sexually promiscuous rites – incest, rape and sexual intercourse with children, including sodomy on young boys. Lucifer was declared the “true god”. Witchcraft and satanic rituals were introduced with animal and human sacrifices.

In 1755, Jacob Frank formed an official body of believers in the Kabbalah, who became known as Zoharists. Their sacred writing is the Zohar - the most important writing among the 550 books of the Kabbalah. In 1756, Jewish Rabbis and leaders who had not been converted to the Kabalistic teachings of Sabbetai rejected Jacob Frank and his followers and declared them heretics.

Frank led his followers into the Roman Catholic Church where he was baptized. By 1760, the Roman Catholic Inquisition discovered that Frank and his followers were using Catholicism as a cover for their evil ends. Frank was arrested and imprisoned for the next 13 years.

FRANKFURT GERMANY - BIRTHPLACE OF THE ILLUMINATI

Upon his release from prison, Jacob Frank traveled to Frankfurt, Germany where the Rothschild banking family were headquartered. Frank was granted the title of Baron, lived the life of a wealthy German nobleman and attracted a large following of Jews in Germany and in other European countries including the Austro-Hungarian Empire. The city of Prague became a center for Frankists Jews and played a major role in the beginning of the Zionist movement.


I could carry on for days showing how the bloodlines link in and how they follow a Luciferian Theology

Read more: Link/thread/19035/bloodlines-rothschild-goldsmith-winsor#ixzz4m4E2Binw

The Rothschild family is slowly but surely having their Central banks established in every country of this world, giving them incredible amount of wealth and power.

In the year of 2000 there were eight countries without a Rothschild owned or controlled Central Bank:

Afghanistan
Iraq
Sudan
Libya
Cuba
North Korea
Iran
Syria

It is not a coincidence that these country, which are listed above were and are still being under attack by the western media, since one of the main reasons these countries have been under attack in the first place is because they do not have a Rothschild owned Central Bank yet.
The Rothschild family is slowly but surely having their Central banks established in every country of this world, giving them incredible amount of wealth and power. In the year of 2000 there were eight countries without a Rothschild owned or controlled Central Bank: Afghanistan Iraq Sudan Libya Cuba North Korea Iran Syria It is not a coincidence that these country, which are listed above were and are still being under attack by the western media, since one of the main reasons these countries have been under attack in the first place is because they do not have a Rothschild owned Central Bank yet.

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Feb 17, 2012 at 1:06am
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Feb 17, 2012 at 12:46am Naught said:
Did they really set a bank up in Libya,while the war was going on?


look they own all of these
Friday, March 4, 2011Rothschild owned Banks
ROTHSCHILD OWNED BANKS:
Afghanistan: Bank of Afghanistan
Albania: Bank of Albania
Algeria: Bank of Algeria
Argentina: Central Bank of Argentina
Armenia: Central Bank of Armenia
Aruba: Central Bank of Aruba
Australia: Reserve Bank of Australia
Austria: Austrian National Bank
Azerbaijan: Central Bank of Azerbaijan Republic
Bahamas: Central Bank of The Bahamas
Bahrain: Central Bank of Bahrain
Bangladesh: Bangladesh Bank
Barbados: Central Bank of Barbados
Belarus: National Bank of the Republic of Belarus
Belgium: National Bank of Belgium
Belize: Central Bank of Belize
Benin: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO)
Bermuda: Bermuda Monetary Authority
Bhutan: Royal Monetary Authority of Bhutan
Bolivia: Central Bank of Bolivia
Bosnia: Central Bank of Bosnia and Herzegovina
Botswana: Bank of Botswana
Brazil: Central Bank of Brazil
Bulgaria: Bulgarian National Bank
Burkina Faso: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO)
Burundi: Bank of the Republic of Burundi
Cambodia: National Bank of Cambodia
Cameroon: Bank of Central African States
Canada: Bank of Canada - Banque du Canada
Cayman Islands: Cayman Islands Monetary Authority
Central African Republic: Bank of Central African States
Chad: Bank of Central African States
Chile: Central Bank of Chile
China: The People’s Bank of China
Colombia: Bank of the Republic
Comoros: Central Bank of Comoros
Congo: Bank of Central African States
Costa Rica: Central Bank of Costa Rica
Côte d’Ivoire: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO)
Croatia: Croatian National Bank
Cuba: Central Bank of Cuba
Cyprus: Central Bank of Cyprus
Czech Republic: Czech National Bank
Denmark: National Bank of Denmark
Dominican Republic: Central Bank of the Dominican Republic
East Caribbean area: Eastern Caribbean Central Bank
Ecuador: Central Bank of Ecuador
Egypt: Central Bank of Egypt
El Salvador: Central Reserve Bank of El Salvador
Equatorial Guinea: Bank of Central African States
Estonia: Bank of Estonia
Ethiopia: National Bank of Ethiopia
European Union: European Central Bank
Fiji: Reserve Bank of Fiji
Finland: Bank of Finland
France: Bank of France
Gabon: Bank of Central African States
The Gambia: Central Bank of The Gambia
Georgia: National Bank of Georgia
Germany: Deutsche Bundesbank
Ghana: Bank of Ghana
Greece: Bank of Greece
Guatemala: Bank of Guatemala
Guinea Bissau: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO)
Guyana: Bank of Guyana
Haiti: Central Bank of Haiti
Honduras: Central Bank of Honduras
Hong Kong: Hong Kong Monetary Authority
Hungary: Magyar Nemzeti Bank
Iceland: Central Bank of Iceland
India: Reserve Bank of India
Indonesia: Bank Indonesia
Iran: The Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran
Iraq: Central Bank of Iraq
Ireland: Central Bank and Financial Services Authority of Ireland
Israel: Bank of Israel
Italy: Bank of Italy
Jamaica: Bank of Jamaica
Japan: Bank of Japan
Jordan: Central Bank of Jordan
Kazakhstan: National Bank of Kazakhstan
Kenya: Central Bank of Kenya
Korea: Bank of Korea
Kuwait: Central Bank of Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan: National Bank of the Kyrgyz Republic
Latvia: Bank of Latvia
Lebanon: Central Bank of Lebanon
Lesotho: Central Bank of Lesotho
Libya: Central Bank of Libya
Lithuania: Bank of Lithuania
Luxembourg: Central Bank of Luxembourg
Macao: Monetary Authority of Macao
Macedonia: National Bank of the Republic of Macedonia
Madagascar: Central Bank of Madagascar
Malawi: Reserve Bank of Malawi
Malaysia: Central Bank of Malaysia
Mali: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO)
Malta: Central Bank of Malta
Mauritius: Bank of Mauritius
Mexico: Bank of Mexico
Moldova: National Bank of Moldova
Mongolia: Bank of Mongolia
Montenegro: Central Bank of Montenegro
Morocco: Bank of Morocco
Mozambique: Bank of Mozambique
Namibia: Bank of Namibia
Nepal: Central Bank of Nepal
Netherlands: Netherlands Bank
Netherlands Antilles: Bank of the Netherlands Antilles
New Zealand: Reserve Bank of New Zealand
Nicaragua: Central Bank of Nicaragua
Niger: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO)
Nigeria: Central Bank of Nigeria
Norway: Central Bank of Norway
Oman: Central Bank of Oman
Pakistan: State Bank of Pakistan
Papua New Guinea: Bank of Papua New Guinea
Paraguay: Central Bank of Paraguay
Peru: Central Reserve Bank of Peru
Philippines: Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas
Poland: National Bank of Poland
Portugal: Bank of Portugal
Qatar: Qatar Central Bank
Romania: National Bank of Romania
Russia: Central Bank of Russia
Rwanda: National Bank of Rwanda
San Marino: Central Bank of the Republic of San Marino
Samoa: Central Bank of Samoa
Saudi Arabia: Saudi Arabian Monetary Agency
Senegal: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO)
Serbia: National Bank of Serbia
Seychelles: Central Bank of Seychelles
Sierra Leone: Bank of Sierra Leone
Singapore: Monetary Authority of Singapore
Slovakia: National Bank of Slovakia
Slovenia: Bank of Slovenia
Solomon Islands: Central Bank of Solomon Islands
South Africa: South African Reserve Bank
Spain: Bank of Spain
Sri Lanka: Central Bank of Sri Lanka
Sudan: Bank of Sudan
Surinam: Central Bank of Suriname
Swaziland: The Central Bank of Swaziland
Sweden: Sveriges Riksbank
Switzerland: Swiss National Bank
Tajikistan: National Bank of Tajikistan
Tanzania: Bank of Tanzania
Thailand: Bank of Thailand
Togo: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO)
Tonga: National Reserve Bank of Tonga
Trinidad and Tobago: Central Bank of Trinidad and Tobago
Tunisia: Central Bank of Tunisia
Turkey: Central Bank of the Republic of Turkey
Uganda: Bank of Uganda
Ukraine: National Bank of Ukraine
United Arab Emirates: Central Bank of United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom: Bank of England
United States: Fed, Federal Reserve Bank of New York
Uruguay: Central Bank of Uruguay
Vanuatu: Reserve Bank of Vanuatu
Venezuela: Central Bank of Venezuela
Vietnam: The State Bank of Vietnam
Yemen: Central Bank of Yemen
Zambia: Bank of Zambia
Zimbabwe: Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe
Banks owned or controlled by the Rothschilds: bit.ly/fW17i1

I would say they got the world well in hand!

Read more: Link/thread/10063/rothschilds-point-plan-world-domination#ixzz4m4GfXAZ6

[Mad Scientist]

And it continues...

North Korea could cross ICBM threshold next year, U.S. officials warn in new assessment.

North Korea will be able to field a reliable, nuclear-capable intercontinental ballistic missile as early as next year, U.S. officials have concluded in a confidential assessment that dramatically shrinks the timeline for when Pyongyang could strike North American cities with atomic weapons.

The new assessment by the ­Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), which shaves a full two years off the consensus forecast for North Korea’s ICBM program, was prompted by recent missile tests showing surprising technical advances by the country’s weapons scientists, at a pace beyond what many analysts believed was possible for the isolated communist regime.

The U.S. projection closely mirrors revised predictions by South Korean intelligence officials, who also have watched with growing alarm as North Korea has appeared to master key technologies needed to loft a warhead toward targets thousands of miles away.

The finding further increases the pressure on U.S. and Asian leaders to halt North Korea’s progress before Pyongyang can threaten the world with nuclear-tipped missiles. President Trump, during his visit to Poland this month, vowed to confront North Korea “very strongly” to stop its missile advances.

The DIA has concluded that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un will be able to produce a “reliable, nuclear-capable ICBM” program sometime in 2018, meaning that by next year the program will have advanced from prototype to assembly line, according to officials familiar with the document. Already, the aggressive testing regime put in place in recent months has allowed North Korea to validate its basic designs, putting it within a few months of starting industrial production, the officials said.

The DIA and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence declined to address any classified assessments.

But Scott Bray, ODNI’s national intelligence manager for East Asia, said in a statement: “North Korea’s recent test of an intercontinental range ballistic missile — which was not a surprise to the intelligence community — is one of the milestones that we have expected would help refine our timeline and judgments on the threats that Kim Jong Un poses to the continental United States. This test, and its impact on our assessments, highlight the threat that North Korea’s nuclear and ballistic missile programs pose to the United States, to our allies in the region, and to the whole world. The intelligence community is closely monitoring the expanding threat from North Korea.”

One of the few remaining technical hurdles is the challenge of atmospheric “reentry” — the ability to design a missile that can pass through the upper atmosphere without damage to the warhead. Long regarded as a formidable technological barrier for impoverished North Korea, that milestone could be reached, beginning with new tests expected to take place within days, U.S. analysts said. U.S. officials have detected signs that North Korea is making final preparations for testing a new reentry vehicle, perhaps as early as Thursday, a North Korean national holiday marking the end of the Korean War.

“They’re on track to do that, essentially this week,” said a U.S. official familiar with the intelligence report who, like others, insisted on anonymity to discuss sensitive military assessments.

North Korea has not yet demonstrated an ability to build a miniaturized nuclear warhead that could be carried by one of its missiles. Officials there last year displayed a sphere-shaped device the regime described as a miniaturized warhead, but there has been no public confirmation that this milestone has been achieved. Preparations reportedly have been underway for several months for what would be the country’s sixth underground atomic test. The last one, in September, had an estimated yield of 20 to 30 kilotons, more than double the explosive force of any previous test.

North Korea startled the world with its successful July 4 test of a missile capable of striking parts of Alaska — the first such missile with proven intercontinental range. The launch of a two-stage “Hwasong-14” missile was the latest in a series of tests in recent months that have revealed startlingly rapid advances across a number of technical fields, from mastery of solid-fuel technology to the launch of the first submarine-based missile, current and former intelligence officials and weapons experts said.

“There has been alarming progress,” said Joseph DeTrani, the former mission manager for North Korea for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and a former special envoy for negotiations with Pyongyang. “In the last year they have gained capabilities that they didn’t have, including ones that we thought they would not have been able to obtain for years.”

The July 4 missile test also caught South Korea’s intelligence service off guard, prompting a hasty revision of forecasts, according to South Korean lawmakers who have received closed-door briefings. “The speed of North Korea’s ICBM missile development is faster than the South Korean Defense Ministry expected,” said lawmaker Lee Cheol-hee of the left-wing Minjoo party, who attended an intelligence committee briefing after the July 4 test.

The South Korean government, which is actively trying to engage the regime in Pyongyang, has declined to call the most recent test a success. North Korea still has not proved it has mastered some of the steps needed to build a reliable ICBM, most notably the reentry vehicle, Lee said.

Still, officials across the political spectrum acknowledged that North Korea is rapidly gaining ground. “Now they are approaching the final stage of being a nuclear power and the owner of an ICBM,” said Cha Du-hyeogn, who served as an adviser to conservative former president Lee Myung-bak.

U.S. spy agencies have detected multiple signals that North Korea is preparing to test a reentry vehicle. Analysts believe that the July 4 test was intended to demonstrate range — the ability of its new two-stage ICBM prototype to reach altitude and distance milestones — while the new launch will seek to validate engineering features designed to protect the warhead as it passes through the upper atmosphere and then is delivered to a distant target.

The latest designs appear to cobble together older systems — including portions of a missile frame used to launch satellites into orbit — with a more advanced engine that North Korea began testing earlier this year. Much of the technology is based on old Soviet-era designs that have been reworked by what U.S. experts describe as an increasingly capable cadre of homegrown engineers, goaded along by a leadership that has pursued nuclear weapons and delivery systems with single-minded zeal.

Kim vowed in January to successfully test a nuclear-capable ICBM in 2017, achieving a long-sought goal that North Koreans believe will serve as the ultimate deterrent against threats to the communist regime’s survival. At the time, the U.S. intelligence community’s formal assessment still held that a credible ICBM threat would not emerge until 2020 at the earliest.

“North Korea’s timeline moved faster than we expected,” said the U.S. official familiar with the new DIA assessment. “We weren’t expecting an ICBM test in July.”

Former U.S. officials and weapons experts said a successful test of a nuclear-capable ICBM would dramatically raise the stakes in the North Korean crisis, putting new pressure on North Korea’s neighbors and increasing the risk of miscalculation. “The danger is that decision time and warning is greatly reduced when North Korea has the weapons, and that escalation can happen quickly,” said Jon Wolfsthal, senior director for arms control and nonproliferation with the Obama administration’s National Security Council.

The specter of a nuclear-armed, ICBM-capable Kim “takes the risk to a new level but does not change the nature of the threat we have faced for some time,” Wolfsthal said. “We have to deter North Korea from ever using any nuclear weapons and make clear that any move to use these weapons is suicide.”

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[Mad Scientist]

I've been saying it for years probable mentioned it on Dtv as well, the subs, watch their freaking subs.

The U.S. Military Has Detected 'Highly Unusual' North Korean Submarine Activity.

North Korea has been engaged in "highly unusual and unprecedented levels" of submarine activity in the wake of its second intercontinental ballistic missile launch this month, according to analysis by the U.S. military.

Speaking with CNN, an unnamed U.S. defense official said Monday the military also detected evidence of an "ejection test" Sunday at the Sinpo Naval Shipyard on the country's eastern seaboard. Sinpo functions as a center of North Korea’s submarine-launched ballistic missile program.

Ejection tests like Sunday's — of which CNN says there have been four this year, three in July alone — test the efficacy of a launch component critical to developing submarine missile launch capability. According to U.S. intelligence assessments, Pyongyang's submarine fleet comprises about 70 subs, but few are thought to be new or sophisticated enough to fire missiles and the submarine-based launch program is still in its nascent stages.

Earlier in July CNN reported that one of the older class of North Korean subs, a Romeo, had sailed some 62 miles out to sea in international waters. The U.S. and South Korea slightly raised their alert level in response to its unusual deployment and range.

Pyongyang fired either a KN-11 or a Pukguksong-1 missile from a submarine last summer, in what officials believe was the country's first successful submarine missile test.

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un claimed last week that "the entire U.S. territory is within our shooting range” after its latest missile launch, further ratcheting up tensions with Washington.

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[grishnakh]

two things worth considering: 

1. During the 7th Congress of the Workers' Party of Korea in 2016, supreme leader Kim Jong-un stated that North Korea would "not use nuclear weapons first unless aggressive hostile forces use nuclear weapons to invade on our sovereignty" This is called a NFU (No First Use) policy and China and Russia both have these, the one country who has so far actually used nukes against another of course... has not. 

2. The DPRK has several times pledged to halt their nuclear program if the US and Sth Korea desist their active war drills, these drills enact an invasion of North Korea and a 'decapitation strike' against Pyongyang. The US refuses and hence, the stalemate they have.



  

another thing to consider is there is NO CHANCE the US will strike a country with nukes. Bullies never pick a fight they can't win hands down. Think Iran.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Aug 2, 2017 6:40:07 GMT grishnakh said:

two things worth considering: 

1. During the 7th Congress of the Workers' Party of Korea in 2016, supreme leader Kim Jong-un stated that North Korea would "not use nuclear weapons first unless aggressive hostile forces use nuclear weapons to invade on our sovereignty" This is called a NFU (No First Use) policy and China and Russia both have these, the one country who has so far actually used nukes against another of course... has not. 

2. The DPRK has several times pledged to halt their nuclear program if the US and Sth Korea desist their active war drills, these drills enact an invasion of North Korea and a 'decapitation strike' against Pyongyang. The US refuses and hence, the stalemate they have.



  

another thing to consider is there is NO CHANCE the US will strike a country with nukes. Bullies never pick a fight they can't win hands down. Think Iran.

 

It makes sense, now that the Brits are joining with I believe two carriers, to sent out the sub fleet with all kinds of tropical surprises. It's guerilla warfare at sea, perhaps even with events Stateside. I completely agree with your Iran comment, I wonder though, when they attack Northern Korea, what would the other three do? If it happens, what will happen to the Jemen war? Will Iran get involved more openly, invade Saudi Arabia, perhaps even nuking the Non Religious cities? I don't think the Yanks can fight on (at least) three fronts, Asia, Ukraine and Middle East, therefore, will Europe be involved under NATO flag? Will Europe at that moment in time be destabilized by attacks from the inside?

It can mount out into a World War within a couple of days. I kinda think NZ is one of the best places to be right now.

It's all sickening.

[grishnakh]

I really don't think its going to come down to an all out hot WW3, theres already sooooo many proxy fronts to manage and economically it would destroy the big three and because they are each aware of this its just not going to happen. 

I think because WW2 is not such a distant memory to much of Europe, war is always a constant concern, but in realty it takes a few crucial ingredients at least... a super power thats in full swing economically and a madman at the helm. We see a madman at the helm over in the US, but the country doesn't have the economic power to fund a fully fledged multi front world war. Neither does Russia or China. 

So for now at least, I think all we will see is sabre rattling and weak economic sanctions. For headlines sakes but not much more. 

Yep, the wealthy buy up large here, many of them americans... most of them, just holiday homes and they are mansions bro... we are very isolated but I'm not sure it would make much difference if there was a full scale nuclear exchange, you know like everyone launching.. we'd all be fucked, whats it called, Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) 

[Mad Scientist]

Aug 3, 2017 2:41:11 GMT grishnakh said:

I really don't think its going to come down to an all out hot WW3, theres already sooooo many proxy fronts to manage and economically it would destroy the big three and because they are each aware of this its just not going to happen. 

I think because WW2 is not such a distant memory to much of Europe, war is always a constant concern, but in realty it takes a few crucial ingredients at least... a super power thats in full swing economically and a madman at the helm. We see a madman at the helm over in the US, but the country doesn't have the economic power to fund a fully fledged multi front world war. Neither does Russia or China. 

So for now at least, I think all we will see is sabre rattling and weak economic sanctions. For headlines sakes but not much more. 

Yep, the wealthy buy up large here, many of them americans... most of them, just holiday homes and they are mansions bro... we are very isolated but I'm not sure it would make much difference if there was a full scale nuclear exchange, you know like everyone launching.. we'd all be fucked, whats it called, Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) 

Well yes, I agree that it is almost impossible indeed, but as you mentioned, we're run by Greed and Madmen everything is possible, although a full atomic war, can't see that happen either. I do however do not exclude the famous explode nukes in the air over land thing (N-Korea). But, let the assholes go into their underground bunkers, let them, if the theory of the core heating up is correct, they'll be there for only a very short while getting exactly what they deserve.