Post by Mad Scientist on Jul 4, 2017 8:18:12 GMT
Personally I do not like the name Jesus, I prefer the Son of Man due to the fact that I like to separate the Religious Jesus from the one who was way more interesting, the one no one talks about, well almost no one.
This Topic is not meant for Jesus bashing or anything similar one might find funny, it is not intended as a Religious discussion persé, but more as an in debt discussion and gathering of information.
The generally accepted image of Jesus is actually Cesare Borgia, one of the Sons of that Borgia Pope. Funny how all these People pray and worship to an image of someone who was actually seen as the Devils Spawn at the time. Perhaps now People will understand why the Muslims do not allow images of their Prophet shown, smart one if you ask me, despite the indoctrination which Religion is.
So, I'll call him either the Son, Jesus or something else. Never the Son of God, never. See the God meant by Church is Yahweh. Father meant by the Son is either Father or Source. But you can all contribute here so we can find out.
They can add words all they want, you take 'm out and the message doesn't change, it only changes the claim the Church made on words and false intentions.
Didn't Jesus make it very clear the God of the Jews was in fact the Devil!
Let's start from here eh.
This Topic is not meant for Jesus bashing or anything similar one might find funny, it is not intended as a Religious discussion persé, but more as an in debt discussion and gathering of information.
The generally accepted image of Jesus is actually Cesare Borgia, one of the Sons of that Borgia Pope. Funny how all these People pray and worship to an image of someone who was actually seen as the Devils Spawn at the time. Perhaps now People will understand why the Muslims do not allow images of their Prophet shown, smart one if you ask me, despite the indoctrination which Religion is.
So, I'll call him either the Son, Jesus or something else. Never the Son of God, never. See the God meant by Church is Yahweh. Father meant by the Son is either Father or Source. But you can all contribute here so we can find out.
"There is one body, and one Spirit, even as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Father of all who is above all, and through all, and in you all."
They can add words all they want, you take 'm out and the message doesn't change, it only changes the claim the Church made on words and false intentions.
Didn't Jesus make it very clear the God of the Jews was in fact the Devil!
“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would do what Abraham did. As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. You are doing the works of your own father.”
“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”
Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” (John 8:39-47)
“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”
Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” (John 8:39-47)
Let's start from here eh.
